[imp] delete emails directly and permanently

[Arminas]

Yes, my mail server keeps (f.e. income) all messages per one file
INBOX. So I guess it's all about creating temporary files when moving
to different directory. Thanks for help, Graeme.

(A)

2008/8/28 Graeme Wood <Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk>:
> Different IMAP servers will implement quotas and message deletions
> differently,
> as they implement how they store mailboxes differently and how they
> implement
> quotas. If you are using University of Washington IMAP on Unix using Unix
> quotas, for example, you will always need to have extra quota to allow the
> mailbox to be copied to a temporary file when deleting messages. If you
> are using Cyrus IMAP, which implements its own quotas and a file per
> message, you
> won't need to have spare quota to delete messages. So if people running
> out of quota is a problem for you, you should use an IMAP server that
> will allow message deletions in that situation. It sounds like you have
> an inappropriate IMAP server for your user requirements.
>
>
> On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:16, Arminas wrote:
>
>> Do you mean that if mail server denies moving anything to different
>> directory if user's quota is reached, SO mail server doesnt work
>> correctly? Mail server should allow moving stuff from one dir to
>> another if quota is reached?
>>
>> 2008/8/28 Graeme Wood <Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk>:
>>>
>>> It won't matter. Several people have already told you that the ability of
>>> a
>>> mail client
>>> to delete messages on the server when you have run out of quota has
>>> NOTHING
>>> to do with
>>> the client. It is how the server handles deletion of messages. You need
>>> to
>>> fix your
>>> SERVER not the client. The client doesn't delete messages. The server
>>> does.
>>> If the
>>> server can't delete a message when a user is over quota it won't make a
>>> blind
>>> bit of difference having a button on your client that says 'Delete
>>> immediately'.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Aug 2008, at 08:08, Arminas wrote:
>>>
>>>> For ability to delete messages. If mail server's quota is on and
>>>> client program doesnt provide marking messages as deleted or not using
>>>> vtrash.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2008/8/28 Graeme Wood <Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>> For what purpose?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Arminas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway I would be glad (I think not only me) if in the next horde
>>>>>> release, feature "Delete emails permanently" will be included. F.e. if
>>>>>> user is not using Virtual trash and function "Marking messages as
>>>>>> deleted" is disabled, then button Delete emails permanently is shown.
>>>>>> It's just a suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arminas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/8/27 Graeme Wood <Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27 Aug 2008, at 20:18, Andrew Morgan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Arminas wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No way. :) It is impossible to train them. All changes I make after
>>>>>>>>> updating horde must not be visible for my users. It's all about the
>>>>>>>>> policy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, those are your 3 options.  Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well there probably is another one: stop using quotas.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Graeme Wood, Unix Section of the IT Infrastructure Division,
>>>>> Information Services, The University of Edinburgh
>>>>> Email: Graeme.Wood at ed.ac.uk Phone: +44 131 650 5003 Fax: +44 131 650
>>>>> 6552
>>>>>
>>>>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body,
>>>>> registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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