[imp] migrating users from traditional to dynamic interface (message deletion)

[Simon Brereton]

On 15 February 2012 16:13, Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org> wrote:
> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>
>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>
>>> Quoting Gunnar Wrobel <wrobel at horde.org>:
>>>
>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Gunnar Wrobel <wrobel at horde.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem you describe obviously originates from the fact that it
>>>>>> was unclear to the user that she selected *all* messages. Looking at our UI
>>>>>> I must admit that this is hard to see. We display the note "358 messages
>>>>>> selected" but it is a faint gray and may be difficult to see. I wonder if we
>>>>>> could make this more obvious. Do people think that this might be an option?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if making the message count in the preview box darker is
>>>>> going to help out.  I would argue that making it darker will make it more
>>>>> difficult to read the screen in general - I think it is at an appropriate
>>>>> color level now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Design-wise I agree. I was wondering if it could make sense to push a
>>>> notification saying how many messages were selected. But somehow I assume
>>>> there are reasons that disallow this :)
>>>
>>>
>>> A notification message?  That seems a bit extreme for an action as basic
>>> as selecting messages.  I don't want to see a notification every time I open
>>> a message that says "You have opened a message!".  Not tremendously useful.
>>>  Notification messages are generally for things that happened outside of the
>>> view/knowledge of the user.
>>
>>
>> How about the highlighting that I just added to develop? This could even
>> be added to more focused events, i.e. only when really selecting all
>> messages.
>
>
> I personally find this very annoying.  At a minimum it should be limited to
> the '# messages' part of the text, rather than the entire DIV.  Especially
> since the info graphic disappears/reappears every time a message is
> selected.  And it should not be highlighted when a message is deselected
> (i.e. after reading a message and deleting it).

I've been really ambivalent about this thread - especially as I can
see both arguments.  My proposal would be to have this as a user or
site option the same way Outlook does.  That way if you're migrating
from Traditional to Dynamic mindless users won't get caught out and
mindful users can turn it off (or site administrators can if they
know/trust their user-base.

Simon