[imp] Search results of more than 100 messages cause 'error communicating with the server'

[Jan Schneider]

On 28. August 2014 01:06:11 MESZ, Andy Dorman <adorman at ironicdesign.com> wrote:
>On 08/27/2014 04:57 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote:
>> Quoting Andy Dorman <adorman at ironicdesign.com>:
>>
>>> On 08/27/2014 02:09 PM, Michael M Slusarz wrote:
>>>> Quoting Jens Pranaitis <pranaitis at phil.hhu.de>:
>>>>
>>>>>> FYI to others: this turned out to be a bug with Debian (and
>Ubuntu's)
>>>>>> PHP package.  Namely, the JSON-C package is broken.  Very
>frustrating
>>>>>> since there is nothing wrong with *PHP's* JSON decoding code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you elaborate on this? Is this
>>>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687269 ? I think
>I'm
>>>>> seeing the same issue with some users loading messages from search
>>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> Debian has an issue with the line "Use this software for good, not
>evil"
>>>> in the source code for the PHP JSON code.  (This is real.  I am not
>>>> making this up.)  So they replaced this stable code that works
>perfectly
>>>> fine with a replacement that is broken in several areas - mainly
>dealing
>>>> with null characters.  We use null characters a bunch in IMP data
>for
>>>> technical reasons I won't go into here.  So Debian ships with
>broken
>>>> JSON code with known bugs (which, I should mention, have been known
>for
>>>> a year and *still* aren't fixed).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well the issue is not quite that simple and Debian isn't the only
>>> distro that has a problem with a "morality" clause in software.
>>
>> This has been covered before.  Regardless of what anyone feels
>> personally/morally about the clause, *legally* the clause causes no
>> substantial issues - or at least no more substantial issues than any
>> other supposed "free" license.
>>
>> I really don't care that Debian gets the whole legal argument wrong.
>> Whatever - that pissing contest is not my idea of intellectual
>stimulation.
>>
>> What I do care is that they ship BROKEN software that claims to be
>PHP,
>> when it really isn't.  In other words: "Debian PHP 5.x.y" !== "PHP
>5.x.y".
>>
>> michael
>> ___________________________________
>> Michael Slusarz [slusarz at horde.org]
>>
>
>Michael, I agree, but the lawyer I checked with disagrees with you that
>
>the clause causes no substantial issues.
>
>But I definitely agree this line of discussion is a complete waste of 
>all of our time.
>
>However, we still need a solution...So I gather that the options for 
>anyone using a Debian distro are:
>
>1. Switch to a non-debian distro...really not feasible for us as our 
>many debian servers are already running other services with thousands
>of 
>users and we do not have the resources nor expertise to switch distros.
>
>2. Live with the bug caused by the Debian PHP JSON-C package not 
>handling null (and apparently some other) characters.
>
>3. Recompile our own version of PHP with Mr Crockford's 
>"morality-constrained" package and use it on our servers.  Again we do 
>not have the expertise nor time to maintain our own PHP version.
>
>4. Are the two JSON-C packages so incompatible that end software (ie 
>Horde) could not be modified to work with either one?  I expect the 
>Horde team has already considered this and that means it is not
>feasible 
>nor should they have to.  If this is really a bug in the free version
>of 
>PHP JSON-C, then the best thing would be to fix the bug.
>
>and that leads us to....
>
>5. See if we could help fund added development in the Debian JSON-C 
>package to resolve the null (and other) character handling bugs.
>
>6. See if we can get Mr Crockford to grant Debian and PHP the same 
>exception to his morality clause that he granted to IBM.  Based on his 
>treating this as a funny joke, I expect not.
>
>So it looks to me like #5 is the best and possibly only way to proceed 
>at this time.
>
>Toward that end, is this the problem bug?
>
>json_decode: strings cut off after first null-byte
>https://github.com/remicollet/pecl-json-c/issues/7
>
>If so then I will be happy to see if we can accelerate getting the code
>
>with the bug fix into Debian PHP ASAP.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-- 
>Andy Dorman
>
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There's actually yet another option. PHP itself is about to ship a replacement extension that doesn't use the original JSON library. 
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