[sync] How to purge Deleted Folder with ActiveSync

[Michael J Rubinsky]

Quoting list-no-spam at ryux.org:

> Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org> a écrit :
>
>> Quoting list-no-spam at ryux.org:
>>
>>> Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Quoting list-no-spam at ryux.org:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> it seems that we can not delete all messages from 'deleted folder'.
>>>>> All is ok with IMP, but with an ios and ActiveSync Configuration,
>>>>> nothing happens !
>>>>> Any idea ?
>>>>
>>>> If you mean you are trying to expunge the Deleted Folder from the
>>>> ActiveSync client, that is entirely in the realm of the client
>>>> software. There is no "Expunge" or "Empty" command in ActiveSync.
>>>> This has to be done via the MUA. I.e., from within IMP.
>>>> --
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hum... I disagree on some part.
>>> I understand that there is no command to expunge the deleted folder.
>>> But, I just checked with a real Exchange Account (with Microsoft
>>> Exchange Server 2007 SP3) on my iPhone and the message is deleted
>>> from the Deleted Folder.
>>> I don't know how it works... Maybe it detects that the message is in
>>> the Deleted Folder and the system erase it instead of move it...
>>> But it works as asked with Exchange
>>
>> I misunderstood your question then. I thought you were looking for a
>> way to explicitly expunge your Deleted folder from the client. This
>> cannot be done.
>>
>> Instead, what it sounds like you are asking is that when you delete a
>> message from the device, instead of moving it to the Deleted folder
>> that *you* configured, you want instead to immediately expunge it?
>>
>> The way it currently works is, if you have configured IMP to move
>> messages to a Deleted/Trash folder then EAS will do the same. If you
>> do NOT have a configured Deleted/Trash folder, then any messages
>> deleted on the EAS client will instead be immediately expunged. Note
>> that this DOES NOT work on iOS due to a bug/feature where iOS requires
>> a Trash folder, and will ALWAYS move the message to the trash,
>> regardless of what we tell it we want.
>>
>> The only way you could get what you seem to want (have a configured
>> Trash folder, yet tell EAS not to use it) is to add an explicit
>> preference for this. I don't want to add this upstream since this (1)
>> needlessly complicates the code, and (2) can lead to potentially
>> confusing situations due to the two places we would have to configure
>> Trash related behavior.
>> --
>> mike
>
> Ok, sorry.
> it is my fault with my english :)
> I sum up my wish (or rather this of my users).
>
> Here a simple use case :
> They receive a lot of spams and only use iPhone or iPad as devices.
> To delete this spams, they select all messages and delete them.
> Then, they go in the Deleted Folder and they want to expunge all  
> messages => this is not possible...
>
> With one of your explanations, one solution would be to not  
> configure any Trash Folder in IMP. But the problem will be the same  
> due to the iOS bug...
>
> Do you have a workaround for this issue ?
>
> (I hope I'm clear in my sentence this time :))
>
> PS: But I repeat that this problem does not exist with an Microsoft  
> Exchange Server...

Which part is possible? Expunging the folder? I'd be very interested  
to know how that works. Or do you mean the messages are automatically  
expunged?
-- 
mike

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