[sync] How to purge Deleted Folder with ActiveSync

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Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org> a écrit :

> Quoting list-no-spam at ryux.org:
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>> Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org> a écrit :
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>>> Quoting list-no-spam at ryux.org:
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>>>> Michael J Rubinsky <mrubinsk at horde.org> a écrit :
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>>>>> Quoting list-no-spam at ryux.org:
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>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it seems that we can not delete all messages from 'deleted folder'.
>>>>>> All is ok with IMP, but with an ios and ActiveSync Configuration,
>>>>>> nothing happens !
>>>>>> Any idea ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you mean you are trying to expunge the Deleted Folder from the
>>>>> ActiveSync client, that is entirely in the realm of the client
>>>>> software. There is no "Expunge" or "Empty" command in ActiveSync.
>>>>> This has to be done via the MUA. I.e., from within IMP.
>>>>> --
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hum... I disagree on some part.
>>>> I understand that there is no command to expunge the deleted folder.
>>>> But, I just checked with a real Exchange Account (with Microsoft
>>>> Exchange Server 2007 SP3) on my iPhone and the message is deleted
>>>> from the Deleted Folder.
>>>> I don't know how it works... Maybe it detects that the message is in
>>>> the Deleted Folder and the system erase it instead of move it...
>>>> But it works as asked with Exchange
>>>
>>> I misunderstood your question then. I thought you were looking for a
>>> way to explicitly expunge your Deleted folder from the client. This
>>> cannot be done.
>>>
>>> Instead, what it sounds like you are asking is that when you delete a
>>> message from the device, instead of moving it to the Deleted folder
>>> that *you* configured, you want instead to immediately expunge it?
>>>
>>> The way it currently works is, if you have configured IMP to move
>>> messages to a Deleted/Trash folder then EAS will do the same. If you
>>> do NOT have a configured Deleted/Trash folder, then any messages
>>> deleted on the EAS client will instead be immediately expunged. Note
>>> that this DOES NOT work on iOS due to a bug/feature where iOS requires
>>> a Trash folder, and will ALWAYS move the message to the trash,
>>> regardless of what we tell it we want.
>>>
>>> The only way you could get what you seem to want (have a configured
>>> Trash folder, yet tell EAS not to use it) is to add an explicit
>>> preference for this. I don't want to add this upstream since this (1)
>>> needlessly complicates the code, and (2) can lead to potentially
>>> confusing situations due to the two places we would have to configure
>>> Trash related behavior.
>>> --
>>> mike
>>
>> Ok, sorry.
>> it is my fault with my english :)
>> I sum up my wish (or rather this of my users).
>>
>> Here a simple use case :
>> They receive a lot of spams and only use iPhone or iPad as devices.
>> To delete this spams, they select all messages and delete them.
>> Then, they go in the Deleted Folder and they want to expunge all
>> messages => this is not possible...
>>
>> With one of your explanations, one solution would be to not
>> configure any Trash Folder in IMP. But the problem will be the same
>> due to the iOS bug...
>>
>> Do you have a workaround for this issue ?
>>
>> (I hope I'm clear in my sentence this time :))
>>
>> PS: But I repeat that this problem does not exist with an Microsoft
>> Exchange Server...
>
> Which part is possible? Expunging the folder? I'd be very interested
> to know how that works. Or do you mean the messages are automatically
> expunged?
> --
> mike
>

For example, if I delete a message from my Exchange Inbox, and then I  
delete it from the Deleted Folder, it is definitely deleted.