[thor] Re: Hermes exports

[Carlos Pedrinaci]

Hi,

FYI and given the discussion we had sometime ago about Thor regarding
its genericity, I have undertaken big changes which are not yet finished
but hopefully will be there on Easter.

Thor is currently being redesigned to support the genericity some ppl
have been asking for.

The backend will be the DataTree driver in order to transparently
support the creation of project hierarchies.

Moreover, the system will support all the different kinds of Projects
one may require by implementing the Command design pattern. To support
this I'm currently implementing in the DataTree driver the capability to
automatically determine the kind of DataTreeObject it represents and
return the appropriate instance.

Finally, the Projects will be composed of some data plus a set of
Objects such as Version_Control, Bug_Tracking etc.. thus, offering the
genericity required by implementing the Composite pattern as Jason
suggested.

Sorry for being that selfish but I tend to use all my spare time for
coding and often forget about keeping ppl on the loop..

Regards,

Carlos

On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 17:09, Jason M. Felice wrote:
> Quoting Tarjei Huse <tarjei at nu.no>:
> 
> > Quoting "Jason M. Felice" <jfelice at cronosys.com>:
> >
> >> Quoting Tarjei Huse <tarjei at nu.no>:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I've been tinkering a bit with hermes/search.php in an effort to get the
> >> > exports working. Here's a quick patch.
> >>
> >> No patch was attached.
> > I've mailed it to you now. Sorry about that, I had to run.
> >
> >> I'm glad you like the new interface.  I'm cleaning up the interface 
> >> some more--
> >>   I'm making a common Horde_UI_Table:: class to render tables like the
> >> search
> >> results.  It will have an export icon in the header, and there will be some
> >> standard Horde code for exports of these, including choosing which fields,
> >> whether to show headers, what to sort and group by.  Perhaps eventually
> >> saving
> >> export profiles.  Well, that may a bit ambitious; my immediate goal is to
> >> get
> >> Horde_UI_Table:: working with the export icon.
> > Looks good.
> >> > Also, my firm is considering different invoicing solutions at the
> >> > moment. One is to use Horde. To be able to do that, we'll need to be
> >> > able to add hours to projects as well as  clients, and also to be able
> >> > to define different prices for different hours in different currencys.
> >> Have you looked at thor?  It is a Horde application in it's early stages
> >> (but still useful).  One of it's goals is to fill the Microsoft Project
> > space.
> >
> >> We plan to use it here, and one of my task-list items is to allow selection
> > of
> >> a thor project to bill to if thor is configured.
> > Nice, that's what I need.
> >
> >> I'm not sure how different currencies would work, since I don't deal with
> >> different ones much, but I'd be happy to see hermes support them.
> > I would guess that we could just add an extra field to hermes and have a
> > config-option if it should be used. I can probably supply some code.
> >
> >> > There's a lot more to it than that, but if you think it sounds cool to
> >> > let hermes go in this direction, I would like to do some of the work. If
> >> > not, I'll have to find another app for the job.
> >
> >> Look at hermes/doc/TODO for more ideas of what I have planned.  I don't have
> >> access to it right now, but I think I put everything from our internal
> >> software roadmap in there.
> > That looks like stuff I want. However, I would like to add some:
> >
> > Wrt. thor:
> > * Make it possible to add/remove the different descriptive fields for each
> > project as the project stuff is very programming development oriented 
> > now - it
> > should be more generic.
> 
> We had some discussions about this, resulting in a couple ideas.  One was a
> container-type approach where a project could contain objects (which could be
> extra attributes, sub-projects, resources, documents, etc).
> 
> >
> > wrt to hermes and thor:
> > * Add a framework for defining reports and searches that may be used by
> > managers
> > and others to generate and export different reports to excel and pdf.
> 
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean now, but I've tossed around the idea of a
> generic reporting tool where apps can export some sort of data schema 
> via APIs.
> I've not thought about it seriously, though.
> 
> > wrt hermes:
> > * Add some way to create an invoice, edit the figures (delete a comment etc)
> > generate a pdf of the invoice and store it somewhere.
> >
> > This is of course on top of the different things you mentioned in the hermes
> > and
> > thot todo docs. For me the most important part is to get hermes in a state
> > where it is possible to export reports so it is possible to use it for
> > timetracking.
> >
> > As such, what kind of timeline are we looking at wrt. hermes and thor?
> 
> The best I can say is "when I get to it."  Carlos is the brain behind thor
> (although I've volunteered to do some of the work), you'll have to ask him.
> There is a thor list.
> 
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