[turba] What is the status of Turba (contact fields) ?

lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de
Wed Dec 9 10:53:45 UTC 2009


Zitat von Rolf Gloor <thunderbird at glr.ch>:

>>>
>>> => So the better the compatibility with MS Outlook, the more people
>>> will actually use Horde, the broader Horde will be installed and the
>>> larger the market share will get.
>>>
>>> So please make sure, that the default is good enough to cover the
>>> (compatibility) needs for the majority.
>>
>> So you need also to include the schema used in Thunderbird, Apple-Mail
>> and maybe Notes for Business-Users??
>> As they are also incompatibel with each other this is not possible at
>> all so you have to decide for your own. Horde/Turba is not a Oulook
>> extension and to break things for others to be compatible with Outlook
>> is not really useful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>
> Hi Andreas
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> I do understand your comments and concerns.
>
> However, the basic set of fields is pretty limited.
>
> Even when not supporting all above mentioned:
>
> => Extending the basic sets to somewhat more useful (less limited),  
> would greatly improve the situation.
>
> Here some proposals:
>
> - a third address set 'other' (beside 'home' and 'work')
> - at least 2 more eMail addresses ('email2', 'email3')
> - many more phone numbers ('workphone2', 'homephone2', 'workfax',  
> 'homefax', 'other', ...)
> - more urls ('homeurl', 'workurl')
> - and eventually the default eMail and address (to use if not  
> specified, don't know the correct wording for it)
>
> The naming of the fields above are just kind of top of my head and  
> might need some tweeking to fit the standard.
>
> However, those few additional fields would greatly improve the  
> usability of Turba/Horde for people using Outlook, Thunderbird and  
> many other apps as well.
> Especially for those, where Horde is installed at an ISP (and the  
> end user does not have influence on the fields).
>
> Ideally, the user could configure in the settings, which field   
> should be displayed and which ones are not used a lot and therefore  
> be hidden.

Let me explain it another way:

For sure you can include as many fields as there are on this planet  
but you have to do a choice. Many times the fields are named different  
and the number differ from client to client. This is getting ugly if  
do SyncML with different clients and mobile devices. So if you have  
for example the stupid Outlook schema email1, email2, email3 you have  
to somehow map this to the more widespread homeemail, workemail for  
example and choose a "default" mailadress.
Therefore every solution which is not Outlook only will only include  
the basic set of fields because unpleasent surprises for non Outlook  
users will follow otherwise.


> I don't know how much work it will be to implement that.
> But based on the few postings I read (especially on the  
> Turba/Outlook2003 page, which unfortunately is not accessible  
> anymore), it might be a matter of a few entries in a few files.
>
>
> Please, could you consider to setup some more fields on the default  
> settings of Horde/Turba.

I'm no maintainer of Horde/Turba at all, so no, there is anything i  
can do about it beside the advice to bother your ISP to adjust the  
installation. All tools are there so it is a matter of service from  
your ISP.


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