[dev] Resetting sort order in IMP

[Jan Schneider]

Zitat von Ronan SALMON <rsalmon at mbpgroup.com>:

> Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org> a écrit :
>
>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>
>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>
>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz <slusarz at horde.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IIRC there used to be some option to reset the sort criterion  
>>>>>>> in IMP, i.e. to sort by arrival again. Has this gone? I didn't  
>>>>>>> find anything in the changelog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right click on header bar in dynamic view.  There should be a  
>>>>>> clear sort link in traditional view.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yikes. :) Can we add this to the "Other" menu button?
>>>>
>>>> I explicitly did not do this because that setting doesn't belong  
>>>> in there.  *All* of our sorting options are currently contained  
>>>> in the header bar - locating a sorting option elsewhere is  
>>>> confusing and unintuitive.
>>>
>>> Maybe it's just me, but I found the context menu on the sort  
>>> header even less intuitive. Though I now remember that you even  
>>> mentioned this place in the past.
>>> The "Other" entry might not be intuitive, but while searching for  
>>> that link, this was the first place I looked, lacking any other  
>>> options that would have made sense to me. Maybe we can put them in  
>>> both places.
>>
>> I don't think we need this option in two places.  Especially since  
>> it is a rarely used option: based on your experience, it took you  
>> months, if not years, to figure out that this has changed.  Can't  
>> remember when I changed this, but it was probably at a minimum last  
>> year.

True.

>> This touches a bit on a very interesting UI discussion regarding  
>> the Win 8 task manager, especially regarding designing from the  
>> perspective of most used features:
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/13/the-windows-8-task-manager.aspx

That's an interesting read, and a nice solution for one our common  
problems: a diverse user group.

>> (The earlier post about redesigning file operations is also  
>> interesting, whether you agree or disagree with what they came up  
>> with).
>>
>>>> Maybe you want something like the vertical layout sort dropdown  
>>>> (which doesn't currently contain Clear Sort either).
>>>
>>> Yes, that's fine too, and I was looking for something like that  
>>> during the search. But I don't know where to put this in the  
>>> horizontal view.
>>
>> Try what I committed.  I stuck it next to the select all box, since  
>> that is the only column that doesn't have sorting semantics  
>> associated with it.  Additionally, I made it a more generic menu so  
>> we can stick other stuff there in the future (labeling the dropdown  
>> with 'Sort' is very confusing in this view).
>
> IMHO, that's definitely not intuitive. End users will never find out  
> where to click to get the sort menu. They will never realize that  
> such menu exists.
> And I find very handy (since I'm using it :-)) the original  
> behaviour "Right click on header bar in dynamic view".
>
> I like the sort menu, but I think this should go in the "Other" menu.

I don't agree. I like that solution. This was actually the second  
place where I looked for such an entry after the "Others" menu.
One tiny issue though: the icon that highlights the current sort order  
is the drop down icon, which is a bit irritating and makes you want to  
click on it for further options. It should probably some tick icon.

Jan.

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