[horde] Net_SMTP-1.6.0 breaks SMTP-Auth

Michael J Rubinsky mrubinsk at horde.org
Sat Aug 13 20:51:01 UTC 2011

Quoting Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>:

> Am 27.07.2011 18:17, schrieb Michael M Slusarz:
>> Quoting Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>:
>>> Am 27.07.2011 06:23, schrieb Michael M Slusarz:
>>>> Quoting Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net>:
>>>>> hi
>>>>> sadly yesterdays update of Horde3 duest not fix this problem
>>>>> not is it fixed on the pear-side
>>>>> http://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=18594
>>>> What does this have to do with Horde?  As you yourself have indicated
>>>> it is the PEAR package that is broken
>>> what indicates that the horde-developers are NOT using the latest
>>> pear versions since it seems only to be broken for horde
>> I'm glad you have empirical evidence to back this up.
>>> it does help if everybody says "not my problem"
>>> fact is that horde can not send mails with latest pear
>> Uhhh... thousands of people are sending messages just fine with the  
>> latest PEAR.
>> Please stop with your FUD.  You did the same thing to the PEAR people
> you should consider NOT calling all FUD which you do not understand
> and optimize the horde-testings instead shout out "You did the same
> thing to the PEAR people"

Well, they *did* ask you to curb your attitude.

> http://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=18594
> -Status: Feedback +Status: Closed
> Thank you for your bug report. This issue has been fixed in the latest
> released version of the package, which you can download at
> http://pear.php.net/get/ Version 1.6.1 should fix the SASL-based  
> AUTH methods.

I'm sorry, I still fail to see how this has *anything* to do with  
Horde, other than the fact you enjoy irritating open source  
developers. Let me recap: what you are saying is that the PEAR folks  
fixed an issue with *their* code, that *they* wrote, that is *not*  
under *any* control of *anyone* on the Horde team and that somehow  
this is a bad reflection on Horde? Hm. I guess we are responsible for  
bugs in PHP too?

I also find it interesting that, as you said in the thread at PEAR,  
"IMP is broken", but then later on indicate that it was the changes  
made to the *PEAR* package that have fixed things for you. You then  
post back here in an "I told you so", entitlement-laced attitude that  
you were correct in treating us with your normal outright disrespect.  


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