[horde] Fwd: Re: Interface design Horde 4.1/5.0

[lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de]

Zitat von Simon Brereton <simon.brereton at buongiorno.com>:

> On 19 April 2012 12:02, Andreas Mauser <andreas at mauser.info> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> ----- Nachricht von lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de ---------
>>  Datum: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:32:47 +0200
>>    Von: lst_hoe02 at kwsoft.de
>> Betreff: Re: [horde] Fwd: Re: Interface design Horde 4.1/5.0
>>     An: horde at lists.horde.org
>>
>>
>>> Zitat von Gunnar Wrobel <wrobel at pardus.de>:
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>>>> Gunnar Wrobel <wrobel at pardus.de> schrieb:
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>>>> "Nicolás Ilich Samus" <nicolas at unq.edu.ar> schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if it's obvious or a detail, but i think is important to
>>>>> hold the menus at top if the user scrolls down in the application.
>>>>> It's really annoying in an application when is needed scroll up to
>>>>> make an action or open another app in a new tab and then scroll down
>>>>> again to return to the working point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The dynamic interfaces we currently have for imp and kronolith work
>>>> with a fixed screen size. So I would say that is the direction we
>>>> are heading towards.
>>>>
>>>> If we keep the static views it might be more difficult there. We
>>>> don't have a fixed menu for them right now and I'm not certain the
>>>> effort would be worth it.
>>>
>>>
>>> We have disabled the dynamic views after many support calls from
>>> people using it and only use the static as of now. Not having the
>>> static view or something similar would probably mean not using Horde
>>> anymore in our case.
>>
>>
>> I support this statement.
>>
>> When using Dynamic Views I often get the feeling that not everything plays
>> together, not all is logically aligned, and the most annoying case (at this
>> time) is that not all is dynamic at the moment. Arising questions.
>>
>> I could see a fully dynamic and logically aligned horde in the future, or a
>> horde not being (easily) used anymore.
>>
>> Please dont feel hit on the leg, for I just want also help make horde a
>> super Groupware at all.
>> And to mention, I still feel that Horde is best choice, still, in things of
>> Groupware.
>
> The team have stated on several occasions that Horde4 is not perfect,
> but it had to make the changes to make Horde5 a realistic opportunity.
>
> No one should give up on dynamic view because people in the
> organisation are resistant to change.

It has nothing to do with "resistant to change". Most people simply  
have to get their work done and are not pleased by "search the feature  
of today". Progress is if something useful is easier todoy, not simply  
because it's new. It might be that the dynamic view will sometimes get  
usable but as of today it is unfinished and only usable by geeks.

We like Horde/IMP because it's technical design, but after all it's a  
tool for the workers in the company and therefore it has to fit their  
needs.

Regards

Andreas


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