[horde] Moving Signature Up in Replies

[Andre Luiz Paiz]

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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:11:27 -0700
> From: "M. Ryan DiMaria" <rdimaria at dimarialawgroup.com>
> To: Steffen <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de>
> Cc: "horde at lists.horde.org" <horde at lists.horde.org>
> Subject: Re: [horde] Moving Signature Up in Replies
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> Perhaps I am out of my league. What the heck is a TOFU Culture or an MUA?
>
> I am a simple person that likes things to make sense. My clients and  
> the people I communicate with understand email followed by a  
> signature from the person emailing, reply followed by the signature  
> of the person replying.
>
> Why on earth would anyone place a signature somewhere else in the  
> sequence of communications?
>
> M. Ryan DiMaria
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>> On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Steffen  
>> <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Ralf Lang wrote:
>>>> On 13.08.2014 23:43, Ryan DiMaria wrote:
>>>> For Horde Groupware 5.1.1, my signature is only shown at the end  
>>>> of all history or string of past replies such that my reply does  
>>>> not contain a signature directly below it.  How do I configure  
>>>> the signature to include the signature directly below the reply I  
>>>> am sending?
>>>
>>> That happens with a TOFU culture as in most outlook-centric companies.
>>
>> Unfortunately several mobile clients implement it the same way. See  
>> the message
>>
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:20:12 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [horde] How to upgrade to webmail-5.1.5 with PEAR (was  
>> Re: HGWE  5.1.5 and HGWE 5.2.0)
>>
>>> There is no way in Horde to move signatures up and they are not intended
>>> to be moved up. Even in a TOFU scenario, it's not even useful.
>>>
>>> Moreover, it's probably a considerable nightmare to properly implement
>>> and maintain this including all edge cases.
>>
>> It distracts reading, replies are out of context, ...
>>
>> In fact, there are traditional MUAs, that cut a message at the  
>> signature, so one is unable to respond correctly.
>>
>> Sadly, it gets more and more wide spread and I wonder if Horde (and  
>> Alpine, Mutt etc.pp) can withstand that pressure, maybe IMP's  
>> message composition mobile should be named "Asterix" ;-)
>>
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I was wonder if it is possible to use a flag to indicate where the  
signature should be placed when writing, like a button (e.g. a red  
ball on the left side of the html window, like debugging a software)  
or a special character that will be replaced by the signature.
Just an idea...

Andre Luiz Paiz
Instituto de Quimica - Unicamp - Campinas - SP