[horde] Moving Signature Up in Replies

Arjen de Korte arjen+horde at de-korte.org
Thu Aug 28 13:10:35 UTC 2014


Citeren Andre Luiz Paiz <andre.paiz at iqm.unicamp.br>:

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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:11:27 -0700
>> From: "M. Ryan DiMaria" <rdimaria at dimarialawgroup.com>
>> To: Steffen <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de>
>> Cc: "horde at lists.horde.org" <horde at lists.horde.org>
>> Subject: Re: [horde] Moving Signature Up in Replies
>> Message-ID: <E2ACDB81-5B1A-49CD-A3AA-101D24001481 at dimarialawgroup.com>
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>> Perhaps I am out of my league. What the heck is a TOFU Culture or an MUA?
>>
>> I am a simple person that likes things to make sense. My clients  
>> and the people I communicate with understand email followed by a  
>> signature from the person emailing, reply followed by the signature  
>> of the person replying.
>>
>> Why on earth would anyone place a signature somewhere else in the  
>> sequence of communications?
>>
>> M. Ryan DiMaria
>> DiMARIA LAW, APC
>> 18101 Von Karman, Suite 330
>> Irvine, CA 92612
>> rdimaria at dimarialawgroup.com
>> www.dimarialawgroup.com
>> Phone: (949) 225-4407
>> Cell: (949) 584-1555
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Steffen  
>>> <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Ralf Lang wrote:
>>>>> On 13.08.2014 23:43, Ryan DiMaria wrote:
>>>>> For Horde Groupware 5.1.1, my signature is only shown at the end  
>>>>> of all history or string of past replies such that my reply does  
>>>>> not contain a signature directly below it.  How do I configure  
>>>>> the signature to include the signature directly below the reply  
>>>>> I am sending?
>>>>
>>>> That happens with a TOFU culture as in most outlook-centric companies.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately several mobile clients implement it the same way.  
>>> See the message
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:20:12 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [horde] How to upgrade to webmail-5.1.5 with PEAR  
>>> (was Re: HGWE  5.1.5 and HGWE 5.2.0)
>>>
>>>> There is no way in Horde to move signatures up and they are not intended
>>>> to be moved up. Even in a TOFU scenario, it's not even useful.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, it's probably a considerable nightmare to properly implement
>>>> and maintain this including all edge cases.
>>>
>>> It distracts reading, replies are out of context, ...
>>>
>>> In fact, there are traditional MUAs, that cut a message at the  
>>> signature, so one is unable to respond correctly.
>>>
>>> Sadly, it gets more and more wide spread and I wonder if Horde  
>>> (and Alpine, Mutt etc.pp) can withstand that pressure, maybe IMP's  
>>> message composition mobile should be named "Asterix" ;-)
>>>
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>
> I was wonder if it is possible to use a flag to indicate where the  
> signature should be placed when writing, like a button (e.g. a red  
> ball on the left side of the html window, like debugging a software)  
> or a special character that will be replaced by the signature.
> Just an idea...

There already *is* such a flag in the preferences. See the  
'signature_show_compose' preference that can be set through the user  
preferences for IMP -> Compose tab.

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