[horde] related tasks (was Re: A hi from a new user)

Michael J Rubinsky mrubinsk at horde.org
Wed Feb 18 14:52:51 UTC 2015

Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:

> Zitat von Steffen <skhorde at smail.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de>:
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, Michael J Rubinsky wrote:
>>> Quoting Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org>:
>>>> Zitat von Maurice Kellenaers <maurice at gkbikes.eu>:
>>>>>>> I have recently installed horde on my webserver, mainly to  
>>>>>>> have a shared calendar app and I was pleasantly surprised to  
>>>>>>> have a simple, intuitive and nice interface. Other groupware  
>>>>>>> suites were tried in  the last year but none were good for me;  
>>>>>>> either too bloated or  missing items. After a quick test I  
>>>>>>> have decided to use this program  for 'production' (quotes  
>>>>>>> added because it's for my family of five  only). It all worked  
>>>>>>> out of the box for me without extensive editing  of the  
>>>>>>> config. Later I have added the IMP (mail) module.
>>>>>>> However, I do have a few rants. Nothing serious but I do want  
>>>>>>> to  share them (maybe I have overlooked an  
>>>>>>> option/setting/something else).
>>>>>>> - The first thing is that I can't create a task from a  
>>>>>>> calendar appointment. As far as I have read the docs, this is  
>>>>>>> on the roadmap/todo list. That is fine by me, so it will come  
>>>>>>> in the future.
>>>>>> Not sure what exactly you mean with creating a task from an   
>>>>>> appointment, but what's on the roadmap is just to merge the  
>>>>>> tasks and  calendar applications. This is just a technical  
>>>>>> thing and won't change  anything from the user's perspective.
>>>>> Let's say for example there is an appointment X on March 20,  
>>>>> black tie dresscode.
>>>>> The appointment is in the calendar.
>>>>> create task from appointment on feb 16; "call for tux", create  
>>>>> task from appointment on March 19;"pick up tux"
>>>>> So when clicking on/creating appointment, the possibility to  
>>>>> create a task(s) with the appointment in the calendar as parent.
>>>> That's an interesting concept. Where did you borrow it from? And  
>>>> is this just some simplification for creating the tasks, or do  
>>>> they still show up an sub-tasks in the event view?
>>> This was actually suggested to me by a user/family member not too  
>>> long ago. When we talked about it, he envisioned another tab in  
>>> Kronolith's event view something like "Related Tasks" that just  
>>> listed basic details and links to the related task entries.  
>>> Thought it was interesting but didn't get much farther than that  
>>> as far as implementation goes. I might play around with this in  
>>> the near future.
>> it might be worth expanding this idea to cover any Horde object,  
>> incl. notes, bookmarks, messages, ... . Like a meta-container.  
>> There is a connection from any member to the meta-container and  
>> from there to all members. Maybe, such container could contain  
>> meta-containers as well.
>> In Kronolith, the content of such meta-container (the current event  
>> is member of - aka its parent) could be displayed in (very) brief  
>> view as yet another tab, in Mnemo it would be a real link to some  
>> other page.
>> -- 
>> Steffen
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> There once existed some POC that implemented linking between Horde  
> objects of any kind. There even still exists some remainder in  
> /services/obrowser/ that allows navigating and picking application  
> objects.
> There's also some PSR work regarding object linking:  
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/php-fig-link

This was one of the original use cases for the Horde/Content  
application. To provide a "relationship" service linking arbitrary  
horde application objects to each other. Development on Content sort  
of stalled after the tagging service was completed. My vote would be  
to implement this via Content, thus making it easier to link ANY  
application objects in the future with (hopefully) minimal work.  
Perhaps we could even leverage/improve/steal the existing object  
browser code to provide a way to help locate an existing object we  
would like to link to.

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