[horde] Horde project status

[Brent]

  Quoting Mike <barjunk at attglobal.net>:

>>>> Le jeu. 16 mars 23 à 17:17:38 +0100, Louis-Philippe Allard  
>>>> <lp.allard.1 at gmail.com>
>>>> écrivait :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>> For the way the users and devs communicates, in my opinion the
>>>>> maillist is fine, I hate Reddit (for multiple reasons).
>>>>
>>>> Same for me!
>>>>
>>>>> Sooner or later I believe the Horde project will find itself at a
>>>>> cross road due to security reasons (at the minimum) or not keeping up
>>>>> with the competition.   I think this project is too big and too much
>>>>> effort was put into it to just slowly go obsolete...
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately Horde and all its apps have just been removed from the
>>>> FreeBSD ports tree (and thus the packages) today.
>>>>
>>>> Reason given: not supported on PHP-8.x and considered as abandonware…
>>>>
>>>> See
>>>> <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports/2023-March/003637.html>
>>>> for references.
>>>> --Th. Thomas.
>>>
>>> Really unfortunate.  I will be testing Sogo real soon to see if it  
>>> will match my expectations.  I still dont understand how Horde has  
>>> just gone stall without some sort of announcement or simple reply  
>>> from any of the developpers...  Are they seeing these emails?  Is  
>>> horde officially "abandonware" from a production point of view?
>>>
>>> Simply asking to better understand.  Its not the first time an  
>>> opensource project goes belly up but usually there is some sort of  
>>> announcement, or at least something informing of a hiatus in the  
>>> development...
>>>
>>> People have recommendations on replacements for SOHO use?  I asked  
>>> this very question in the past and never got a reply.  Now people  
>>> begin to see that we need to look forward....
>>> Louis-Philippe Allard
>>> lp.allard.1 at gmail.com
>>> Sent using Horde Groupware on GNU/Linux
>
> Thanks for having this discussion around the future of Horde.  As a
> long time user, it concerns me as well.
>
> My first thought when I see these conversations is, if I can't
> maintain and submit fixes myself, then I'm left to move on to
> something else.
>
> The folks that have spent their time (and money no doubt) may have
> decided to quit maintain this project.  Maybe they aren't even to the
> point of deciding that they are giving it up completely.  I think
> that is their right.
>
> My choice will be to continue to use it.  When I provide updates to
> documentation or have a problem that is reproducible, I often see
> responses.
>
> There are still responses.
>
> I have more time these days, so, even though I wouldn't be able to
> maintain this whole project, I'm willing to spend my time to support
> it.
>
> I believe they welcome this often.
>
> Even though it isn't bug free, I'm very happy they have moved to
> composer style install.
>
> Mike.
>  

I'm running the composer (alpha) version of Horde on php8. There are  
some bugs and I don't know where to report them. I've fixed some of  
them myself. There was an update two days ago (March 29th)  for imp  
from alpha12 to alpha13, so there IS some development being done on  
it. There weren't any real release notes and I've not done a "diff" to  
see where they are making changes. I've not seen a release for the  
production version in ages, so I really don't know anything about  
where that stands and would explain why some distros are considering  
it abandoned.

Horde is a great project that hopefully sticks around.

brent