[horde] Horde project status

[Mike]

Quoting Brent <impuser at bitrealm.com>:

> Quoting Mike <barjunk at attglobal.net>:
>
>>>>> Le jeu. 16 mars 23 à 17:17:38 +0100, Louis-Philippe Allard  
>>>>> <lp.allard.1 at gmail.com>
>>>>> écrivait :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>> For the way the users and devs communicates, in my opinion the
>>>>>> maillist is fine, I hate Reddit (for multiple reasons).
>>>>>
>>>>> Same for me!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sooner or later I believe the Horde project will find itself at a
>>>>>> cross road due to security reasons (at the minimum) or not keeping up
>>>>>> with the competition.   I think this project is too big and too much
>>>>>> effort was put into it to just slowly go obsolete...
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately Horde and all its apps have just been removed from the
>>>>> FreeBSD ports tree (and thus the packages) today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reason given: not supported on PHP-8.x and considered as abandonware…
>>>>>
>>>>> See
>>>>> <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports/2023-March/003637.html>
>>>>> for references.
>>>>> --Th. Thomas.
>>>>
>>>> Really unfortunate.  I will be testing Sogo real soon to see if  
>>>> it will match my expectations.  I still dont understand how Horde  
>>>> has just gone stall without some sort of announcement or simple  
>>>> reply from any of the developpers...  Are they seeing these  
>>>> emails?  Is horde officially "abandonware" from a production  
>>>> point of view?
>>>>
>>>> Simply asking to better understand.  Its not the first time an  
>>>> opensource project goes belly up but usually there is some sort  
>>>> of announcement, or at least something informing of a hiatus in  
>>>> the development...
>>>>
>>>> People have recommendations on replacements for SOHO use?  I  
>>>> asked this very question in the past and never got a reply.  Now  
>>>> people begin to see that we need to look forward....
>>>> Louis-Philippe Allard
>>>> lp.allard.1 at gmail.com
>>>> Sent using Horde Groupware on GNU/Linux
>>
>> Thanks for having this discussion around the future of Horde.  As a
>> long time user, it concerns me as well.
>>
>> My first thought when I see these conversations is, if I can't
>> maintain and submit fixes myself, then I'm left to move on to
>> something else.
>>
>> The folks that have spent their time (and money no doubt) may have
>> decided to quit maintain this project.  Maybe they aren't even to the
>> point of deciding that they are giving it up completely.  I think
>> that is their right.
>>
>> My choice will be to continue to use it.  When I provide updates to
>> documentation or have a problem that is reproducible, I often see
>> responses.
>>
>> There are still responses.
>>
>> I have more time these days, so, even though I wouldn't be able to
>> maintain this whole project, I'm willing to spend my time to support
>> it.
>>
>> I believe they welcome this often.
>>
>> Even though it isn't bug free, I'm very happy they have moved to
>> composer style install.
>>
>> Mike.
>>  
>
> I'm running the composer (alpha) version of Horde on php8. There are  
> some bugs and I don't know where to report them. I've fixed some of  
> them myself. There was an update two days ago (March 29th)  for imp  
> from alpha12 to alpha13, so there IS some development being done on  
> it. There weren't any real release notes and I've not done a "diff"  
> to see where they are making changes. I've not seen a release for  
> the production version in ages, so I really don't know anything  
> about where that stands and would explain why some distros are  
> considering it abandoned.
>
> Horde is a great project that hopefully sticks around.
>
> brent


Thanks for the feedback.

Maybe just a pull request?  Give that a shot.

Mike