[i18n] Horde IMP in Japanese

[Thomas Maadie]

Thank you Eric.

OK, so CVS/HEAD is a test version.  And there are no
ISP's yet which can handle Japanese e-mail in IMP.

I really would like to have a test environment for testing
IMP's Japanese capabilities.

As demonstrated by Jan yesterday, the CVS/HEAD version
should already support Japanese e-mail.  All I need to do
is, perhaps, perform extensive testing,
and report my findings on this i18n mailing list.
I do have various client software, such as Japanese
versions of Windows, Mac OS, Netscape, Eudora,
and some other exotic e-mail apps such as
Becky! (http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm) and
PostPet (http://www.postpet.so-net.ne.jp/en/).

But I do NOT have a server where I can install
the CVS/HEAD version of IMP.

Can the Horde project team create a test account on
their server based on the current CVS/HEAD version?
Or can anyone else provide such a test account for me instead.
I would like to use it exclusively for testing Japanese
e-mail on the CVS/HEAD version.
I will need the URL, username, and password sent
to me privately.  I will provide all test results and any
missing translations (if any) to this i18n mailing list.

Thank you very much.



At 11:34 07/25/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Quoting Thomas Maadie <thomas at e-interwave.com>:
>
> > Again, I don't know what "Horde/IMP from CVS HEAD" means.
>
>CVS HEAD is the current development code, which will be used for the next
>major release.
>
> > But if you can't even get any ISP to follow your directions
> > and implement your software, I think you're in trouble.
>
>Yes, that's life.  I get questions almost every week from ISP's using IMP 
>2.2.4
>which is very old (and has security issues).  We can't make them upgrade.
>
>I get complaints daily about ISP's using brokem, ancient, or buggy (non-Horde)
>software when they should be using something newer/better link Horde/IMP.
>But we can't force them to change.
>
>I see ISP's every day using insecure versions of php, apache, sendmail, 
>etc.  I
>get SPAM/viruses/worms from ISP's daily who won't reply to my
>reports/complaints, and won't fix the problem hosts.  We can't fix broken
>ISP's.  That is up to the ISP's and/or their customers.
>
>But, that isn't the point anyway.  An ISP shouldn't be using the HEAD
>version of Horde/IMP.  So if an ISP is using Horde/IMP, then Japanese
>will be broken.
>
>The only way this could have been avoided was if some folks using Horde/IMP
>in Japanese had come forward earlier to help.  Instead, no one came forward,
>and those who did work on it split into a separate project (IMP-JP) and
>never submitted any patches back to Horde.
>
> > Anyways, my current test environment is as follows:
>[...]
> > And NO, Japanese messages do not show up properly!
>
>And won't, until you switch to CVS HEAD, or wait for the next major release.
>
>The point is, if you want to help develop or debug the code, you need to
>help develop or debug the current development code.  Otherwise you will
>just be fixing things that are already fixed.  Once the current development
>code is done, then maybe we can see about backporting any of it to the
>current release code (may or may not be possible).
>
>--
>Eric Rostetter
>The Department of Physics
>The University of Texas at Austin


Thomas Maadie
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