[imp] Sean D & Jason Lohrenz - revisiting imp on plesk?

[Tobias Eigen]

Whoops- the addressbook issues I can dispense with quickly.. seems I was overly
quick in my enthusiasm for replacing ./imp/lib/IMP.php. The from address is
correct when you log in with the full email address instead of just the
username, but my existing addressbook/preferences were not in fact being used
as expected.  

The "sent-mail" folder issue remains, however. I also remain confused about
there being two addressbooks. 

I'll have to sleep on this and see if I can't come up with a more elegant
solution.

Cheers,

Tobias

-- 
Tobias Eigen
Executive Director

Kabissa - Space for change in Africa
http://www.kabissa.org

* Kabissa, meaning complete in Kiswahili, was founded on the belief that
information and communications technologies (ICTs) can be a revolutionary
force in civil society. * 

Quoting tobias at kabissa.org:

> Oh, and one other thing: there's a few features that I had previously that
> are
> now lost. Can a knowledgeable person please point out to me where to fix
> them?
> 
> - add to addressbook link is now gone from next to addresses when reading
> messages
> 
> - save to folder now forces me to only be able to save to sent-mail, when
> previously one could pick a folder to save to - that was powerful! 
> 
> - expanding names is now not working right - looks to me also like there's
> an
> extra addressbook now. It used to just be "My Addressbook" which is in fact
> where all my addresses are stored. Now there is also "Private Addressbook".
> What gives? Is this a Plesk change, or a turba upgrade change? 
> 
> I think that's pretty much it, besides having difficulty getting used to the
> new
> xp-themed white on white color scheme. 
> 
> cheers,
> 
> tobias
> 
> Quoting Tobias Eigen <tobias at kabissa.org>:
> 
> > Hi Sean, 
> > 
> > You've got it pretty much right. Thanks for your efforts to think yourself
> > into
> > my situation! :-) 
> > 
> > > ok.. coming in late in the discussion has my head spinning.
> > 
> > Not so late - but sometimes I do feel like my requirements must be totally
> > unusual since nobody ever complains here or in the plesk support forums..
> > it's
> > good to hear that my situation makes sense to somebody. :-) 
> > 
> > > Jason is right the cert issue is a drawback if you've paid for a proper
> > cert
> > > you 
> > > may want a standalone horde install to accomadate it. I see you want it
> > more
> > > 
> > > like Plesk 5 but i never used Plesk 5 so i'm at a loss there, I came
> into
> > it
> > > at 
> > > Plesk 6.
> > 
> > Well, I do kind of like the webmail.* setup for those organizations
> hosting
> > on
> > my server who do want to use their own domain webmail, and offer it to
> their
> > staff. It is slick. But I don't want to force everybody to use an
> interface
> > that will give confusing and disconcerting error messages, and I like
> > offering
> > a single webmail login on the Kabissa homepage for my members. 
> >  
> > > Let me first clarify your goals... correct me if i'm wrong here.
> > > 
> > > 1.) you want to have one url that all your virtual hosts use for their
> > > webmail. 
> > > (because you bought a cert for it). e.g. if your biz is called
> > > acmehosting.com 
> > > you want everyone to use "http://www.acmehosting.com/webmail" even if
> they
> > > are 
> > > trying to access the email for bobsworld.com
> > 
> > Yeah, that's it - except I do have the cert set up for
> > https://webmail.kabissa.org (our main webmail URL) as well as for
> > https://www.kabissa.org
> >  
> > > 2.) you want them to login with full email addresses only (this would
> > actally
> > > be 
> > > required for what i'm thinking you need). and the realm and maildomain
> > must
> > > get 
> > > set appropriately based on the username (parsed from the email addy they
> > used
> > > as 
> > > their username)
> > 
> > You got it. I noticed with Squirrelmail this seems to happen automatically
> -
> > is
> > this not the case for IMP? 
> >  
> > > 3.)  you want no security prompts for https (in other words you want to
> > use
> > > your 
> > >   purchased cert).
> > 
> > Yep, you got it. 
> >  
> > > fear not!  i believe this is entirely possible (will require some
> tweaking
> > > for 
> > > sure)
> > > 
> > > i need to know what the CN (common name) is on your cert.  I am a real
> > moron
> > > 
> > > when it comes to certs but i believe if you purchased a cert with a CN of
> 
> > > webmail.acmehosting.com and try to use it for
> www.acmehosting.com/webmail
> > > then 
> > > you will get a warning about domains not mathcing the CN?  (maybe
> somebody
> > > who 
> > > knows more can answer this one) what i dont know is if you purchase the
> > cert
> > > 
> > > with a CN of only "acmehosting.com" and then use it for
> > www.acmehosting.com
> > > or 
> > > webmail.acmehosting.com do you still get the warning...?
> > 
> > I've got the cert working successfully on webmail.kabissa.org. 
> >  
> > > some facts:
> > > 1.) yes plesks webmail uses just one cert for all domains, but its not
> > true
> > > that 
> > > you cant change it.  You just cant change it through plesk so they will
> > tell
> > > 
> > > you, you cant do it.  Plesk wants you to pretend there is no such thing
> as
> > a
> > > 
> > > shell or apache configs.  the plesk cert its using is
> > > /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.pem
> > 
> > Yep - this is what I've done. 
> > 
> > > 2.) plesk's imp DOES use some simple apache calls (i think i pasted the
> > code
> > > 
> > > into one of my earlier posts) to grab the domain name from the url the
> > user
> > > put 
> > > in the browser (i.e. webmail.SOMEDOMAIN.com) and then set the "realm" and
> 
> > > "maildomain" to somedomain.com.
> > 
> > Yeah, this is what seems so silly to me. Makes more sense now that they're
> > not
> > allowing people to log into IMP on other domains on the same server, but
> it
> > still seems screwy to use the web address to determine the email
> addresses.
> > For
> > our needs, it is better to use the domain name of the actual email account
> > to
> > figure this out. I actually hacked the webmail on plesk 5 to get the
> domain
> > name from the plesk database after the login. That was a kludge I was
> never
> > happy with, and doesn't work anymore anyway since the upgrade. 
> > 
> > > 3.) you CAN change a setting in plesk to force your users to use their
> full
> > 
> > > email addy when logging in (not just for webmail, but pop3 and imap as
> > well)
> > > if 
> > > you do this it opens up your options a bit for horde.
> > > 
> > > if you can do #3 above then i think you should do the following:
> > > 
> > > stand-alone horde install using your cert and tweaked out to set the
> > > maildomain 
> > > from the username (i.e. full email addy).  or not at all perhaps as i
> dont
> > 
> > > believe either the realm or maildomain are required (realm would not be
> > > needed 
> > > as the username would HAVE to be the full email addy, therefore every
> users
> > 
> > > mysql settings would be unique without adding anything to the end of the
> > > username)
> > > 
> > > if not... then i'll have ot think some more.
> > 
> > Yeah, we're on the same page methinks. Seems to me my next step is to set
> up
> > a
> > plain vanilla imp installation and see what happens when I log into it
> with
> > full email addresses. My hope would be that existing account prefs etc
> will
> > be
> > found and mysql settings will be unique, and that for new imp users the
> > default
> > reply-to address would be correct. I'm not so confident that this will be
> > the
> > case. 
> > 
> > If you have further ideas, let me know - I'll give it a go now. 
> > 
> > Many thanks for your input. 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > 
> > Tobias
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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